In other words, is it possible to fix the mistake of having the owner's true name on file with the clerk and tied to that address, or has the damage been done?"

The answer is "No," the damage is done. Real estate recordings are there forever, and every single transfer of the property from the time the Congress released it from the public domain, or in the East, from the time the land was settled, is recorded in the Clerk & Recorder's records. You can, if you want, trace your property ownership back to every person who has ever owned it, right back to the beginning. It's called a "title search" and your title insurance company did it when you bought the house.

You used to get an "abstract of title" with a title search, which is a little booklet that shows every prior owner and the recordation number in the records.

I've got six books like this for my ranch, tracing it clear back to the Land Grant from Congress in 1870.

But nowadays, title companies try to DESTROY abstracts, and if you let the title insurance company get ahold of yours, they will keep it. They have all the records in THEIR files, but they don't want YOU to have it because once you do, you don't need title insurance any longer, because you have all the necessary documents to prove your clear title to the property. It's a real racket. You pay thousands of dollars for a title search and title insurance, which means that the title company guarantees you have clear title to the bank, for your loan. But you don't get the PROOF you paid for them to research, with which you might be able to dispense with title insurance in the future.

Anyway, you're FOREVER attached to that house now, but if you sell it to an LLC, and your name is not traceable to the LLC, you probably become just another owner in a chain of owners of the property, and anybody looking for you will see that you ONCE owned the house, which might give them a clue to look there, but they might also see that you sold it and they might assume you moved on.

In any event, getting your name OFF the title is a good idea into the future, and if someone shows up at your door asking for you, just deny you live there and tell them you're renting it from the LLC that owns it.

Let's say I have mail forwarded from a PO box to a CMRA - would the PO box ever cause my CMRA address to be compromised (connected to me in a database)? Would the CMRA ever connect my PO box to the CMRA address in a database? What if it was law enforcement or a social engineering PI doing the asking?

Finally, and perhaps most importantly... If the PO box is somehow connected to the CMRA because of the forwarding order, would the *different* addresses on file for "home" addresses become linked to each other?

I think ghost addresses and PO boxes and CMRAs are great ideas, but I would be hesitant to exercise mail forwarding among them, especially if the addresses on file for each were different, because it would seem like that would bring down the whole house of cards.

... I suggest you never use mail-forwarding. Period. There is nothing very private about it at all.

But, I also am a fan of simplicity. After reading HTBI, there was a lot to keep straight, so I have tried to summarize the number of addresses I need to maintain (and remember!).

Say, for example, I have a DL with an old address in state A, a car, rented apartment, and job in state B, and a home based business. From what I understand, I need all of the following:

(1) Ghost Address or owned land in state A where they have my actual name (Domicile, DL, other licenses, Voting etc.)

(2) Ghost Address not in state B where they don't have my name (Car registration, home based business address, leases, contracts etc)

(3) Ghost Address in state B where they have my name (local "home" address for library, deliveries, and forwarded mail)

For ease of pickup, I would pick up mail at (3) only, ideally having (1) and (2) forward mail there, perhaps to a business name. (2) could be JJL Club forwarding.

Does anyone see any flaws in this setup, or changes I should make before getting this all set up?

Let's pretend someone made the mistake of getting a loan and "purchasing" a house. That person's name would then be tied to the address and on file with the county clerk. Let's say that the person then decided to immediately pay off the loan, receive the title to the house, and transfer it into the name of an LLC. In this scenario, would there be a paper trail of the transfer to the LLC, or can the existing record on file with the clerk be updated to simply replace the person's name with the LLC?

In other words, is it possible to fix the mistake of having the owner's true name on file with the clerk and tied to that address, or has the damage been done?

I'm wondering if the house can be gifted a couple of times through some trusted nominees or even LLCs to lengthen the paper trail? The house would become a rental property, and the new tenants would never know the owner's true address (mailing rent checks to a ghost address, etc).

This brings up another issue. Can NM LLCs be used for rental properties in another state without registering in that state? Could the owner just list the rental income on his/her own personal tax return?

Thanks in advance for any input on this...

Using their services puts you in their databases, but being actively involved in a court case puts you in the recent court system, and those records are public.

If they never hear from you about the case, the only information about you that will be available is the information you provided when setting up your relationship with their service...

1. If I go the NM LLC route to conceal ownership by transferring the title of these vehicles to LLC's, will it still be possible for someone to find out that I was the prior owner and still track me down that way?

2. Is it worth the trouble to transfer title on currently-owned vehicles?

... (1) No.

... (2) Yes!

Should their 'opt-out' form be completed, so I could maybe stay out of online searches for the court case results? If plaintiffs would be included in online searches would be the main reason to opt-out, but I'm not familiar with such searches.

Then again, the same postcard says I have to complete other forms if I want to participate. It's confusing - I'm in, but not in unless I complete forms, and not out if I don't complete forms. Maybe I'm in limbo and better off not opting-out? Thanks again.

I tried mailing the unwanted mail back saying undeliverable, no such person, etc. Post office keeps redelivering it. Insurance company sold my personal info.

... When you send mail back, do you put a blank label across the address (leaving your name visible) and then do you black out the zip code? If not, the mail will come back to you automatically.

That said... When a class-action suit is filed, and/or the parties have been notified that their claims may have been included in the class action... If you have received notice of the class action, you may as well figure that the address at which you received the notification has already been compromised. You may as well also figure that ANY and ALL information included in that postcard is ALREADY public record.

so.... If you got the postcard at your ghost address... No harm done, you may resume your regular (private) life in progress....

However, if you received that postcard where you sleep at night, then you need to move. End of story. You need to move!

Mark this post and article for future reference.

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... Excellent info, Drake. Thanks!

I can complete an opt out form and provide my phone and email I prefer to keep private, unless the law firm already has them from Expedia? If I don't opt out, would such a court case and everyone in it, and their personal details, be public record? Thank you.

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so if you use your driver’s license and it says John T. Smith, your ticket must also say John T. Smith — not John Thomas Smith, not Jack Smith, or any other name variant.

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... For some readers, the name on your DL does not match the name on your passport. (Example: my wife includes her maiden name on her DL but not on her passport.)

List the name, therefore, as shown on the document you plan to use as ID at the airport.

Also, can I have a lawyer or friend act as a temporary LLC Manager to sign all the real estate forms? Basically, can I purchase a house (with no mortgage) without putting my name down on any paperwork? I'm trying to figure out how to do this the correct way.

I'd appreciate any suggestions or ideas about the above plan - thank you!